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Crown CWL-309Helpme-K-KMS-ST35 Joystick

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  • Product Description

    Important Note

    The CWL-309Helpme-K-JMS-ST35 mounting plate is NOT compatible with Sanwa JLF mount cases such as MadCatz TE or Qanba Q4RAF. It is recommended that you add the .187 to 5-pin Conversion Harness to your order if are installing into a model that instead uses a 5-pin connector rather than .187" terminals. You can save $1.25 when you option bundle with this product. Partial assembly is required; install joystick lever through body, push actuator into bottom of lever stem, and push up against the internal spring to connect the e-clip.  Use needle nose-pliers to fasten the e-clip to the bottom of the joystick lever, pushing it into the lever's bottom groove.


    Crown has released several Korean style models within the 300 numbered series, such as the 303-N, 307-N, and now the 309Helpme-K. In this iteration, Crown carefully reviewed feedback from diehard Tekken players - specifically Helpme, and eschewed select characteristics from earlier models to deliver what many would consider a happy medium for gameplay.

    Meeting in the Middle

    The 303-N main characteristic is longer travel distance, while the 307's larger actuator shortened dead zones. The 309Helpme-K-JMS-ST35 is Crown's closest attempt to mimic the popular Myoungshin Fanta Joystick, narrowing the throw distance and a smaller, durable 16.5mm polyoxymethylene plastic actuator.

    Silicone rubber grommetThe Difference in Silicone

    The ST variant uses a white silicone rubber tension system with a shore A rating of 35.  This is indeed lighter than the 55 shore A rating in the 307 series.  Tests conducted at Hibal, however, show that the silicone is slightly thicker in the 309.  Executing command input are easier, while returning to neutral is a bit tougher from the reduced tension.

    Still, the benefits of the rubber tension is a faster return to neutral, which is perfect for 3D based games such as Tekken in which wavedashing and consistent movement is required.  The CWL-309HelpmeK-JMS-ST35 continues to share the same characteristics as other Fanta joysticks, with smooth, cornerless control for QCB, QCF (quarter-circle back/forward) HCB, HBC (half-circle back/forward) and full 360 motions.

    Korean Gersung GSM-V1623A3 Microswitches

    The CWL-309Helpme-K-KMS-ST35 currently uses a Gersung GSM-V1623A3 .187" Long Straight Hinge Lever Microswitch.  Like the 303 and 307 models, each microswitch can be removed from the joystick and replaced by another.  This opens up potential for customizing the switch sensitivity and performance.  The body of the CWL-309FJ-JMS-ST encloses the microswitches, offering a tighter form factor than the 303-FK. 

    CWL-309HelpmeK-JMS-ST35 Specs

    CWL-309-Helpme-K-ST35 Specifications 

    The bottom construction of the CWL-309-HelpmeK-ST35 joystick lever matches that of the 303-N though colored black.  The microswitches are positioned closer to the actuator than the 307, and are not embedded into the housing as the 307. See specs below for measurements.

    Thanks to IplayWinner.com for a detailed overview of the Crown 309 models. new-window-icon.png Thanks to SRK's Agieze for further information regarding collar height and actuator plastic material. new-window-icon.png

     

     

     

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    1. Great for 2D and 3D games

      The moderate deadzone and tension make this my preferred lever. The corners are smaller than in Japanese levers, but it is still more than serviceable for 2D games. Feels very similar to the short collar version, with a slightly longer throw and (to me) a somewhat sturdier feel. I wouldn't say it's worth redrilling a hole for, but if you already have a stick that's fit for full collar levers, this is the best of the best. I'd also recommend the DX bobbin for those seeking a slightly tighter tension. on May 10th 2023

    2. Awesome!

      This lever is perfect for Tekken. Coming from Japanese levers, I can this say this stick took some time to get used to. I switched out the 35ST grommet with a 25ST because I had wrist fatigue after long sessions. I can say that this lighter tension makes it easier for newcomers to adjust to. If you want the full Korean arcade experience, I suggest grabbing this Korean mounted stick. Make sure your fighting stick is compatible before installing. If not consider drilling a 35mm hole with a step drill bit. on Apr 23rd 2018

    3. great korean lever.

      this is my second korean lever. I love it. 35 weight grommet is heavier than japanese levers (specifically sanwa) but gets comfortable quickly. a little practice and corners are no longer an issue. great product! on Feb 24th 2018

    4. This stick is perfect

      I have an Etokki Omni that came with the Taeyoung Fanta Stick, which works just fine for Tekken. Bought the crown 309 helpme and I will say wavedashing and EGWF are much easier vs the Taeyoung Fanta Stick. Directional input to neutral is quick and the diagonals are easier to hit. on Oct 5th 2017

  • Product Videos

    • IPW Fight Tech: Crown 309 Helpme, CWL-309MJ, & IST FLF-ST levers video review
      I bought and tried three Korean arcade stick levers! Two of th...
    • Korea Samducksa 309M Lever Silicon Test
      http://hibal.tistory.com/844 309M 레버 테스트 입니다. 3가지 실리콘 부품으로 테스트...
    • Korea Samducksa 309M Lever Silicon Tekken Play Test
      http://hibal.tistory.com/844 삼덕사 309M 레버 3가지 실리콘 부품으로 철권 플레이 테...

    IPW Fight Tech: Crown 309 Helpme, CWL-309MJ, & IST FLF-ST levers video review

    I bought and tried three Korean arcade stick levers! Two of them are from Crown (Samducksa) with help from popular Tekken player Helpme. The other lever is from IST, creators of the Makestick Pro arcade stick case, more in line with selling levers than making them. Whether you are veteran of Korean levers or looking to try it for the first time, check out the video and read the written portion found below too. Order links for these levers can also be found below! ------------- FULL REVIEW: http://iplaywinner.com/news/2016/11/1/review-crown-309-helpme-309mj-and-ist-flf-st-korean-arcade-s.html CROWN 309 HELPME LEVER: - http://bit.ly/2gm6K8S CROWN CWL-309MJ LEVER: - http://bit.ly/2gNs8Hq IST FLF-ST LEVER: - http://bit.ly/2fqgxOh .185 TO 5-PIN CONVERSION HARNESSES: - http://bit.ly/2gAxpz9 (Makestick) - http://bit.ly/2gxhWyA (Paradise Arcade Shop) - http://bit.ly/2gwIh3y (Focus Attack) .185 QUICK DISCONNECT WIRES: - http://bit.ly/2gNypTq (Paradise Arcade Shop) - http://bit.ly/2gNs0YL (Focus Attack) CROWN SILICONE GROMMETS: - http://bit.ly/2gm9V0r MAKESTICK WEBSTORE: - http://makestick.com/us/ ------------- IPW TESTS: CROWN CWJ-303FK KOREAN JOYSTICK LEVER: - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og-ADN8yOYM NICEGAMETV'S VIDEO ON GEONDAE NET ARENA (철권7 FR 제 2회 매장대항전 매장 소개 - 건대 넷아레나): - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyhS6quJu9A ADDITIONAL CROWN 309 & 309MJ DEMONSTRATION VIDEOS: - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwsgK_uQcbg (309) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zaf0IUY_jLo (309) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxP6uvac58g (309MJ) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYMbDUnlFgk (309MJ) ------------- CREDITS: Carlo Dela Cruz/The Phantomnaut - Director, producer MUSIC: Rukunetsu - TOUCH AND GO T7 [2016] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M16-_x3j--I) *Original composition for Tekken 4 by Satoru Kosaki DOWNLOAD: https://soundcloud.com/rukunetsu/2016-touch-and-go-t7 -------------- web: http://www.iplaywinner.com twitter: http://www.twitter.com/iplaywinner facebook: http://www.facebook.com/iplaywinner
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