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Crown CWL-309MJ-KMS-ST35 Joystick

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  • Product Description

    Important Note

    It is recommended that you add the .187 to 5-pin Conversion Harness to your order if are installing into a Japanese Fightstick or model that instead uses a 5-pin connector rather than .187" terminals. You can save $1.25 when you option bundle with this product. Partial assembly is required; install joystick lever through body, push actuator into bottom of lever stem, and push up against the internal spring to connect the e-clip.  Use needle nose-pliers to fasten the e-clip to the bottom of the joystick lever, pushing it into the lever's bottom groove.


    Crown has released several Korean style models within the 300 numbered series, such as the 303-FK, CWL-307-FJ, and now the 309MJ. In this iteration, Crown carefully reviewed feedback from diehard Tekken players, and eschewed select characteristics from earlier models to recreate the feel of a Fanta.  Much like the FK and FJ models, the 309MJ ensures installation in popular Japanese style Fightsticks such as the Mad Catz Street Fighter V Arcade FightStick TE2+ PS4/PS3/PC or Qanba Obsidian PS3/PS4/PC Fightstick.

    Low Profile Collar

    Comparison (photo by hibal.tistory.com)

    The 303-N main characteristic is longer travel distance, while the 307's larger actuator shortened dead zones. The 309MJ-JMS-ST25 is Crown's closest attempt to mimic the popular Myoungshin Fanta Joystick, narrowing the throw distance and a smaller, durable 16.5mm acetal (acetic anhydride + formaldehyde) plastic actuator.

    One of the most prominent feedback from players when trying the earlier model 303-FK and 307-FJ is accuracy issues that arose from lack of a collar.  Crown decided to incorporate a 6mm low-profile collar that offered the best of both worlds.  The short collar allows you to install the lever into Japanese style Fightsticks or cabinets (which often come with s-plate mount points), yet it maintains the accuracy that came with use of the collar.

    You can see comparison shots at Hibal.tistory.comnew-window-icon.png

    Silicone rubber grommetThe Difference in Silicone

    The ST variant uses a blue silicone rubber tension system with a shore A rating of 35.  This is indeed lighter than the 55 shore A rating in the 307 series.  Tests conducted at Hibal, however, show that the silicone is slightly thicker in the 309.  Executing command input are easier, while returning to neutral is a bit tougher from the reduced tension.

    Still, the benefits of the rubber tension is a faster return to neutral, which is perfect for 3D based games such as Tekken in which wavedashing and consistent movement is required.  The CWL-309MJ-JMS-ST35 continues to share the same characteristics as other Fanta joysticks, with smooth, cornerless control for QCB, QCF (quarter-circle back/forward) HCB, HBC (half-circle back/forward) and full 360 motions.

    Korean Gersung GSM-V1623A3 Microswitches

    The CWL-309Helpme-K-KMS-ST35 currently uses a Gersung GSM-V1623A3 .187" Long Straight Hinge Lever Microswitch.  Like the 303 and 307 models, each microswitch can be removed from the joystick and replaced by another.  This opens up potential for customizing the switch sensitivity and performance.  The body of the CWL-309FJ-JMS-ST encloses the microswitches, offering a tighter form factor than the 303-FK. 

    CWL-309MJ-JMS-ST35 Similarities and Differences 

    The bottom construction of the CWL-309-HelpmeK-ST35 joystick lever matches that of the 303-FK though colored black.  The microswitches are positioned closer to the actuator than the 307, and are not embedded into the housing as the 307.

    Thanks to IplayWinner.com for a detailed overview of the Crown 309 models. new-window-icon.png Thanks to SRK's Agieze for further information regarding collar height and actuator plastic material. new-window-icon.png

     

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    1. Best stick for a beginner

      The stick was easy to install on my madcatz.
      it feels great and it's the first korean elver I've ever got and tried.
      on Sep 17th 2023

    2. Crown CWL-309MJ-KMS-ST35 Joystick

      As described, I love this lever! on Sep 8th 2023

    3. Can't go wrong

      Part of me regrets buying other Korean levers after I already had this one. Despite often being referred to as an "intro" or "beginner" Korean lever, after trying many other offerings, I firmly believe this is the best of the best. It fits in many enclosures, it is easy to transition to from Japanese levers, it works great in both 2D and 3D games and it is highly customizable and easy to tweak and fine tune. I can't recommend it enough.

      My personal ideal configuration for this lever is a 35a grommet and a DX bobbin. It is high enough tension for easy, snappy KBD in Tekken and low enough for fast movement in 2D fighters.
      on May 10th 2023

    4. Awesome stick!

      I have a RAP4 Arcade Stick and I hate how the Hayabusa stick felt and after installing this stick, I immediately fell in love with it. This feels much more responsive and precise than the Hayabusa one and I can do my fast inputs much better with this stick compared with the other one. The only thing I don't like that much is that the stick is kind of stiff compared with the Hayabusa but I kind of got used to it. Really recommended if you play Tekken and do a lot of inputs (wavedash, backdash cancel, etc). on Nov 26th 2022

    5. Seamless transition from standard JLF

      This is my first Korean lever coming from years of playing on a JLF. This review is targeted for those looking to transition from a Japanese lever to Korean. Installation was easy, except for figuring out the directions on each microswitch and matching the correct color from the .187 to 5 pin harness. For your reference, up = red, down = orange, right = yellow, and left = green. Aside from the wiring, mounting was a cinch on my Qanba Pearl.

      A discussion of grommets is paramount to those interested in trying a K-lever. It is what truly separates the two types of levers. The stock grommet that came with the kit is the white one, rated at 25A tension. This is a really, I mean really light tension grommet, as light as a JLF 1lb spring. I bought a 30A grommet for comparison and it already had much more noticeable tension. I was able to compare with a friend’s Etokki Omni. Not sure what tension the grommet was in that thing but it was super stiff! I was literally cranking the joystick. Not my cup of tea. I suggest ordering a few different grommets to experiment with yourself. If you play Tekken, you may find others tell you a stiffer grommet is best for the game. They are correct for the most part. Wavedashing improved dramatically when I went with the 30 grommet, but my KBD suffered. Since I don’t main Mishimas, I prefer to prioritize back dashing over wavedashing so I switched back to the 25 grommet.

      The Crown 309MJ is a great lever to get started with Korean levers and for its price I highly recommend it.
      on Sep 28th 2022

    6. Perfect Transition

      This is the perfect Korean stick to start off with as it has one of the best grommets already installed and you can feel the difference from a Japanese stick. Love it on Jan 14th 2021

    7. Perfect fit in hori rap 4

      Will take sometime to adjust the tension. Overall a very fast last as compare to hori lever in rap 4 on Nov 11th 2020

    8. great start coming from a jlf

      fits great into an rap4. its verry high quality. its great with the 30a grommet! the bat top is amazing looking. dosent color match the marine blue mx buttons tough. on Nov 6th 2020

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    IPW Fight Tech: Crown 309 Helpme, CWL-309MJ, & IST FLF-ST levers video review

    I bought and tried three Korean arcade stick levers! Two of them are from Crown (Samducksa) with help from popular Tekken player Helpme. The other lever is from IST, creators of the Makestick Pro arcade stick case, more in line with selling levers than making them. Whether you are veteran of Korean levers or looking to try it for the first time, check out the video and read the written portion found below too. Order links for these levers can also be found below! ------------- FULL REVIEW: http://iplaywinner.com/news/2016/11/1/review-crown-309-helpme-309mj-and-ist-flf-st-korean-arcade-s.html CROWN 309 HELPME LEVER: - http://bit.ly/2gm6K8S CROWN CWL-309MJ LEVER: - http://bit.ly/2gNs8Hq IST FLF-ST LEVER: - http://bit.ly/2fqgxOh .185 TO 5-PIN CONVERSION HARNESSES: - http://bit.ly/2gAxpz9 (Makestick) - http://bit.ly/2gxhWyA (Paradise Arcade Shop) - http://bit.ly/2gwIh3y (Focus Attack) .185 QUICK DISCONNECT WIRES: - http://bit.ly/2gNypTq (Paradise Arcade Shop) - http://bit.ly/2gNs0YL (Focus Attack) CROWN SILICONE GROMMETS: - http://bit.ly/2gm9V0r MAKESTICK WEBSTORE: - http://makestick.com/us/ ------------- IPW TESTS: CROWN CWJ-303FK KOREAN JOYSTICK LEVER: - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og-ADN8yOYM NICEGAMETV'S VIDEO ON GEONDAE NET ARENA (철권7 FR 제 2회 매장대항전 매장 소개 - 건대 넷아레나): - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyhS6quJu9A ADDITIONAL CROWN 309 & 309MJ DEMONSTRATION VIDEOS: - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwsgK_uQcbg (309) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zaf0IUY_jLo (309) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxP6uvac58g (309MJ) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYMbDUnlFgk (309MJ) ------------- CREDITS: Carlo Dela Cruz/The Phantomnaut - Director, producer MUSIC: Rukunetsu - TOUCH AND GO T7 [2016] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M16-_x3j--I) *Original composition for Tekken 4 by Satoru Kosaki DOWNLOAD: https://soundcloud.com/rukunetsu/2016-touch-and-go-t7 -------------- web: http://www.iplaywinner.com twitter: http://www.twitter.com/iplaywinner facebook: http://www.facebook.com/iplaywinner
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