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Please note that the 2023 model of Seimitsu LS-32 (green body) will sell alongside the original LS-32 until its supply is exhausted. There is NO difference between this and the 2017 model with blue body, except for the color of the plastic body.
Seimitsu's LS-32-01 joystick has remained a main competitor to the Sanwa JLF series, and the standard among Versus City based arcade setups. This year, Seimitsu's iconic model has undergone a slight change, while striving to keep its functionality as intact as it most popular model is known and celebrated for. We introduce the Seimitsu New LS-32.
Originally labeled the LS-300 when introduced at 2017 Japan Arcade Expo (JAEPO), Seimitsu changed the name to "New LS-32" in order to properly represent the minor update to its lever microswitch. This is not a functional upgrade, but rather designed to address an unexpected development in the industry. Earlier in the year Panasonic suddenly announced they would no longer manufacture the microswitches used in the Seimitsu LS-32 series joystick lever. This not only affects this model, but eventually the entire line of Seimitsu products that utilize their brand of microswitch.
Faced with this challenge, Seimitsu went to work on an alternative, collaborating with respected microswitch brand Omron to develop a replacement model. Their goal was to replicate the feel of their original Panasonic microswitch, which fans have grown to known and enjoy. After many months of testing, including sample models at FA with thanks to SRK's PresidentCamacho - an ardent technical fan of the Seimitsu line - this new model is now available.
It is helpful to know that the name previously advertised "LS-300" name is no longer used for this product. Seimitsu officially mentioned this via their website under "2017/07/03 カタログ掲載の「LS-300」についてのご案内":
最新版のカタログに掲載されております、オムロン社製SW使用のLS-32の後継機についてですが
カタログには、「LS-300(仮称)」で掲載されておりますが、正統後継機のため名称変更無しの
「LS-32」として販売させていただきます。現行製品(P社製)との混乱を避ける為、完全に在庫がなくなり次第の
変更となります。(変更の時期などは事前告知させていただきます【現状2017年8月前後になる予定】)
尚、新商品として「LS-300」と一部告知されておりますが、今後「LS-300」の名称は廃止させていただきます。
皆様にはご迷惑をお掛けいたしますが、予めご了承ください。
Translated roughly to English:
Regarding LS-32 (LS-32-01) successor
Regarding the successor of LS-32 using Omron SW, which published "LS-300 (tentative name)" in the latest paper catalog.
Now LS-32 became a legit successor and there is no name change and we will sell it as "LS-32".
Current product (made by Panasonic) LS-32 inventory gone completely then start to sell in order to avoid confusion.
(We will notify when we will change etc., it's scheduled to be around August 2017 with the current situation.) [Note: USA/Western market has it before Japan market]
As a new product, "LS-300" has been partly announced but the name of "LS-300" will be abolished.
We apologize for any inconvenience, but please be forewarned.
Most importantly, Seimitsu has taken great strides to keep both look and feel of the original model.
Seimitsu's goal was not to change the overall appearance of its original product. However, it performed some alterations to the bottom support plate and PCB to accomodate the Omron micro switch. Each are available separately for those who already own the LS-32 and would like to swap these parts. Please note that you must get the bottom support plate with the new PCB as the shape of the PCB won't fit the original bottom support plate.
Until recently, Seimitsu's popular LS-32 did not offer a black shaft cover. Shaft covers for this model are not interchangeable with other products that have shaft covers, such as the LS-40 or LS-56. The LS-32-01-SC finally gives you the opportunity to get a black shaft cover for this model.
You have a number of accessories, maintenance products and performance mods that are compatible with the LS-32:
The LS-32-01's S plate mount is compatible with the default mount in a MadCatz TE joystick. Upon removing the JLF, you will notice the default mounting bracket attached to the TE's metal underside contains screw holes on the outer-most area. You can use this to attach the LS-32-01. Please see the video further in the product page for a demonstration.
All Seimitsu LS-32-01 joysticks now come with the SS mounting plate for easy installation into a Madcatz TE configuration. A black balltop is also included.
You can also purchase the following plates for the LS-32:
I've used the LS-32-01 as mainline joystick for over a decade now. My original LS-32-01 resides in an HRAP 3 SE I imported from Japan.
I've long felt the LS-32 was a more solid joystick than the JLF and easiest to use with the stock square gate. Right now, I play with a stock LS-32 that has the one normal spring they ship with. In the past, I played with added springs to raise the tension but I'm used to stock tension and just keep the pivot area greased well.
I was concerned with the change in microswitches but after testing the new Omron substrate I think it's safe to say Seimitsu retained the classic feel of the LS-32. I detect no huge difference between the Panasonic and Omron microswitches.
As for concerns about how well the LS-32 fits in various joystick bases, I don't think Classic Mad Catz joystick owners have much to fear. Mad Catz took the differences in mounting alternative joysticks into account and built universal mount areas into all the Tournament Edition models. Note that you will have to use the SS Mounting plate with the LS-32 (and LS-40 by default) to ensure that the LS-32 rises to a comfortable height above the faceplate of the TE joystick base.
For most Hori Real Arcade Pro bases, the installation of the LS-32 presents no issue... There's plenty of space for it in most HRAP cases -- HRAP V models, HRAP N editions, and the new Alpha joystick case.
With the Classic HRAP base (HRAP 1-3, licensed HRAP and the SA/SE limited editions), there can be issues with overlap of the leftmost lower 30mm pushbutton (the "X" button in the HRAP 2/3, "L2" in the HRAP 1 and most licensed HRAPs that use the HRAP 1 faceplate minus the Turbo cutout area). The problem is with the SS Mounting plate -- it tends to project 1.5mm-3 mm past the "outer rail" of the mounting area. There are 2 solutions to this issue (which happens with HRAP 2/3). 1) Cut off the lower right corner of the SS Mounting Plate that overlaps the "X" button, 2) grind off (with a Dremel sanding barrel) about 1.5mm-2mm of the metal of the SS Mounting Plate where it overlaps the "X" button. (You only have to ground the 26-28mm of where the Mounting Plate overlaps with the button, not the entire side of the SS Mounting Plate.) I've done the former solution of cutting off the lower right corner of the SS Mounting Plate (with a Dremel cutting wheel) and attached the SS Mounting plate with the central screw-in holes. I've snaked the joystick harness gingerly to the 5-prong adapter and rotated the "X" pushbutton so that the wires don't get warped by the button.
Unfortunately, there's inconsistency with the way the SS Mounting Plate is manufactured year to year. Sometimes, plain metal is used, other times a more chrome-looking metal is shaped into the mounting plate. I've measured and detected variations of 1-2 mm in length for the screw-in wings of the Mounting Plate. In the years I bought my HRAP 3 SE and bought an LS-32 to replace the JLF in my first Mad Catz TE joystick (2009/2010), they were more careful with the manufacture of the SS Mounting Plate and it did not stick out past the mount area under the faceplate. The wings of the SS Mounting Plates were flush with the edges of the mount area under the faceplate of the Mad Catz TE/Rd 1 and HRAP 3 SE.
In the HRAP 3 SE, Hori modded the PCB so that the harness adapter plugs into the bottom of the lever (the 5-prong adapter of the LS-32-01 was oriented down instead of to the right as in most HRAP 2 and 3's) to avoid the contortion act needed for the regular HRAP 3 and HRAP 3 SA models. GeorgeC on Nov 25th 2022
An extremely well rounded tactile joystick that I enjoy miles more than the Sanwa JLF and Hayabusa. After noticing a huge improvement in my motion inputs in fighting games, I ended up replacing most of my levers in my collection with either this or the LS-40. It's just more authentically tight than a JLF with a swapped spring. I do usually make sure i remove the weird sub-plate once putting it in though.
Fair warning, it necessarily doesn't as easily in joystick cases as the JLF but it fits in more things than one may expect. It definitely fits in the Madcatz TE and TE+S, Fightstick Pro, probably every Hori RAP model, if that's of any help. Eben Selker on Apr 20th 2019
Replaced the Sanwa JLF stick that came stock on my te2. I have to say, the LS-32 feels so much better! I had problems with the washer in the JLF that the actuator sits on top of where it would keep popping off the little groove it sits in. This would mess up my inputs. I had to super glue it to keep it flat and centered. The LS-32 doesn't have to worry about that problem. What I like most about this stick is the shortened throw range, really good for air dashing fighting games like Guilty Gear and Blazblue. Especially when you like to quickly feel the gate when double tapping. LS-32 just naturally feels more tighter and responsive. The shaft is shorter than the JLF so I was worried it was going to be too short and low for my hands. The SS mounting plate actually raises the stick a bit, so it's actually about the same height as the JLF when installed. Would highly recommend the LS-32! Don't think I will ever go back to Sanwa joysticks.. Sanwa buttons are the best in my opinion, but when it comes to joysticks, I honestly feel the LS-32 is king! Yo on Oct 14th 2017
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